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Through Jesus, we also receive the Gifts of the Holy Spirit in the Sacrament of Confirmation. When I started to share the Gospel with others, I had to face many, many questions, mostly from my Catholic and Jacobite believers. Obviously it means you're praying for greater manifestations, re-visitations, greater demonstrations, greater power. He says - listen - verse 46. Can a lost person say, "Jesus is Lord"? That is clear. But let me ask you this: Were they already believers in Acts 2? Of course, we have Luke's version of the Lord's prayer. Paul wrote to the Romans about how God’s love has been poured out to the believer by the Holy Spirit. "They said, 'No. To take the Gospel forth to the nations; to be witness; to have the Gospel truly be something more than a dead letter. Luke-Acts You can look at this kind of indirectly. When do you get a new heart? 2. Now I am a happy man. What had happened? First Corinthians 12:13 declares, “For we were all baptized by one Spirit into one body—whether Jews or Greeks, slave or free—and we were all given the one Spirit to drink.” GenesisExodusLeviticusNumbersDeuteronomyJoshuaJudgesRuth1 Samuel2 Samuel1 Kings2 Kings1 Chronicles2 ChroniclesEzraNehemiahEstherJobPsalmsProverbsEcclesiastesSong of SongsIsaiahJeremiahLamentationsEzekielDanielHoseaJoelAmosObadiahJonahMicahNahumHabakkukZephaniahHaggaiZechariahMalachiMatthewMarkLukeJohnActsRomans1 Corinthians2 CorinthiansGalatiansEphesiansPhilippiansColossians1 Thessalonians2 Thessalonians1 Timothy2 TimothyTitusPhilemonHebrewsJames1 Peter2 Peter1 John2 John3 JohnJudeRevelation, Use semicolons to separate groups: 'Gen;Jdg;Psa-Mal' or 'Rom 3-12;Mat 1:15;Mat 5:12-22', There are options set in 'Advanced Options', The Whole Bible It is that simple. It's like putting a jacket on. But now what happens? Whoever gets there first, why don't you read that? He just simply asks them this: Since you became Christians - since you've become believers - did you receive the Holy Spirit? And he was calling out people's sins. (from the room) "No one can see the Kingdom of God unless he's born of the spirit and the water?" The church at Corinth had many spiritual problems, yet the Apostle Paul said every believer, those walking in the Spirit and those who were not, had received the Holy Spirit. The Bible says that a person could not be a believer in Jesus Christ without the Holy Spirit in their life. Is this brother right? We receive the Holy Spirit the moment we believe in Christ. All those who believe in Jesus Christ instantaneously receive the Holy Spirit. When we receive the Holy Spirit into our lives, we have a new awareness of Christ, and can begin entering a relationship with Him. True Christians possess the Spirit of God. Tim: Well, right, you've got to be born of the Spirit. They receive various charisms and are given a new strength and boldness to proclaim the Gospel. What does it say? range of evangelical traditions, all of the ideas and principles conveyed That all happens. They believed and then what happened? "You, however, are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if in fact the Spirit of God dwells in you. Maybe we back up to the previous chapter, verse 24, "a Jew named Apollos, a native of Alexandria, came to Ephesus." You've got these - probably men who were affected by Apollos. Then Peter, filled with the Holy Spirit..." and he goes on. And when you get these guys - Acts 19:1, "It happened while Apollos was at Corinth. Pentateuch They were having many supernatural things happening. There is something else which needs to be emphasized. There he found some disciples." Or, they are true believers and this is really contradictory? The Apostle Paul wrote to the Galatians reminding them how they received the Holy Spirit. In the Mass of Pentecost, when the faithful remember the descent of the Holy Spirit upon the Apostles, the faithful pray the Sequence, saying, "On the faithful, who adore and confess you evermore in your sevenfold gift descend." What event is he speaking about right there? These things where I started reading till now, they give us principles regarding prayer. They're going to make Him out to be much smaller than He is. Somebody could perhaps argue that. The Spirit makes it move. We need them desperately. For this reason: don't you realize? Are we going to say, "Jesus, I'm God's temple. Anyway, I remember Don Currin telling me an incident there, and I've voiced it before to you guys that there was a revival taking place. There's a repetition that is importunity that says, "Lord, I'm not letting go of you..." It's like Jacob. Tim: Keep going. Teach us what we should pray." He breathes on them. And had they already been baptized? The Holy Spirit is a gift, not a reward for faith or service. So, maybe these two verses wouldn't even necessarily be the best ones to even try to prove what he felt convicted about. Somebody could say, well, I don't think the thing about "Jesus is Lord" and "Jesus is accursed" - I'm not even sure that that has to do with receiving the Spirit when we get saved. We hear the text in Titus. On the Day of Pentecost Peter said the crowd. "Now when the apostles in Jerusalem heard that Samaria had received the Word of God, they sent to them Peter and John." That's what the coming of the Spirit brought. - we are to test the spirits. What is it we find there? That's the test. While there are some who contend that a believer must wait to receive the Holy Spirit at some time after their conversion, this is not what the Bible teaches. Confirming this belief, St. Ambrose in De mysteriis taught, "Recall then that you have received the spiritual seal, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of right judgment and courage, the spirit of knowledge and reverence, the spirit of holy fear in God's presence. Thank you for registering. The people are going out beat up and trampled on and left hopeless. Usernames should only contain letters, numbers, dots, dashes, or underscores. The New Testament We receive the Holy Spirit the moment we believe in Christ. Why would I pray for the Spirit? "You can do nothing apart from Me," Jesus said. He's speaking to His disciples who specifically asked Him, "Lord, teach us to pray." Filled With the Spirit #2: Are You Asking for the Spirit? Blue Letter Bible offers several daily devotional readings in order to help you refocus on Christ and the Gospel of His peace and righteousness. And the Holy Spirit becomes our permanent possession the moment we believe. I wasn't thinking that we would even go there, but because we read it and it is a verse that brings up questions, I'm not exactly certain how this brother is interpreting this text. Now we have received not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit that is from God, so that we may understand the gifts bestowed on us by God (1 Corinthians 2:12 NRSV). Now, I think what happened in Paul's mind is this: Jesus told His disciples to baptize in the name of the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Spirit. When did Peter speak in tongues so that people heard the mighty works of God in their own language? We dealt with that if you've been coming to Grace about the sealing of the Spirit. But the thing is, what are we going to say to Jesus? Copyright 2021 © I'll Be Honest All rights reserved. He's asking them. It's the fruit of what? He was just so plain, but when he spoke, power came. -------------------- Competent in the Scriptures. By proceeding, you consent to our cookie usage. In John 3:5, Jesus says, "…unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God." What's happening here is the disciples who are already saved (incomplete thought) Notice verse 2. Being clothed, being covered with power. A Christian who has not received the Holy Spirit, does not exist. Thanks for your support." That's where that happened. "He said to them, 'did you receive the Holy Spirit when you believed?'" I came to this conclusion mainly by these two verses." Ezekiel 12. They're saying, "Lord, teach us to pray." The subject is "Doubt about Holy Spirit," from Midhun P. Matthew. Now see, you could stop right there and say, why should a Christian pray for the Spirit? The Full Surrender. And what you actually find in the book of Acts are repeated outpourings of the Spirit of God. Johannine Writings "Can anyone withhold water for baptizing these people who have received the Holy Spirit just as we have?" And He says this to people who are already saved. You can have the most gifted individuals and nothing will happen because raw talent isn't what makes the Kingdom of Christ move. And the Holy Spirit becomes our permanent possession the moment we believe. It couldn't be clearer. That's not what's happening here. I'm not going to get go of You until I get what I've come for, Lord." This is actually an interesting text. Because this is the very truth that I've been driving at. On hearing this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus, and when Paul had laid his hands on them, the Holy Spirit came on them and they began speaking in tongues and prophesying." What's interesting - this is the only time in Scripture you find somebody re-baptized. Minor Prophets Many Catholic scholars have attempted to explain the baptism in the Holy Spirit and have come up with different theological interpretations. I think that does affirm this truth as well. The Gospels What were we hearing about just recently? So let's look at that. Closed Captions, iTunes App Store -------------------- Why the folks at Ephesus didn't set him right, I don't know. We can make the following observations. That's another text. We're born of the Spirit. A Christian without power is a Christian who needs a baptism in the Holy Spirit. The Gifts of the Holy Spirit are sealed and strengthened within us at Confirmation. Tim: There it is. Crystal clear. So, let's look at the two verses that he references. 733 "God is Love" 124 and love is his first gift, containing all others. Tim: It's a whole package there. Pauline Epistles See, they won't come out and say, "Jesus Christ is accursed," but what they're going to do is they're going to belittle Him. It's the same idea of being born of God. He comes to Ephesus. Or if you then who are evil know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will the Heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit?" And He said then to them, "He is in you..." already, and then He said this, "and He will be with you." He focuses in on some certain things in v. 2, 3, and 4. Mary received the Holy Spirit at the Incarnation, and again at Pentecost. Understanding is the ability to comprehend the meaning of God's message. Prophets Probably mainly in India. When did he receive the Spirit in this same fashion? This is another indication that all believers have received the Holy Spirit. Probably the most emphatic verse I would say is found in Romans 8, and we'll look at that in a second. -------------------- He said if anyone who does not have the Spirit of God is not a Christian. There are more manifestations to be had. So, you see, Apollos was at Ephesus. And there he finds some disciples. Error: Passwords should have at least 6 characters, Error: Usernames should only contain letters, numbers, dots, dashes, or underscores. But even if you're a Christian, you should be asking for the Spirit all the time because what the Spirit brings - power to proclaim the Gospel, transformation in your life - Christlikeness, the fruit of the Spirit, the gifts of the Spirit. It is difficult to name another Catholic doctrine of as hallowed antiquity as the seven gifts of the Holy Spirit that is subject to such benign neglect. And the more of the Spirit that we have, the more manifestations of the Spirit we have, that's what happened. Paul told the Galatians that the Holy Spirit was given to them because they are God’s children. Pentateuch The Old Testament "Ask your Father for the Spirit." We don't exactly know what's happening. And the very power comes to us by way of His Spirit - His life-giving Spirit. The Holy Spirit is a gift to all who believe. The Blue Letter Bible ministry and the BLB Institute hold to the historical, The Whole Bible Power. They are believers. Well, obviously it means that the Spirit is actively working upon you in your life changing you, being born again. Tim: Filled. Certainly they can. So, let's look at the two verses that he references. Minor Prophets And He said I'll teach you to pray. The Gospels You study carefully in the book of Acts where the Spirit is being unleashed on the church and they are being clothed with power. And there was a man in the meetings. And if you've got things happening that are not glorifying to Him... We could take this in many different offshoots. The first verse is 1 Corinthians 12:3. Greetings in the name of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. My children are with me in bed. Now I think that's important to catch because I think what He's saying there is much according to this truth. Ezekiel. You say what's that all about? Those who are born of God are bringing forth - what does 1 John say? Poetical Books But you see the point he's making - they have just received the Spirit the way we received the Spirit, but he's not talking about receiving the Spirit the way that is necessary simply to become a Christian. Most of us are familiar with it. What does Paul mean? And what happens is once he's set right by Priscilla and Aquila, then you have Paul go over to Ephesus, and I think what he finds are probably some disciples of Apollos, who all they knew was the baptism of John. I'm just conjecturing. Jesus also said, "That which is born of the flesh is flesh; that which is born of the Spirit is spirit." So, let's look at the two verses that he references. In sum, the Holy Spirit has been given as a gift to all who believe in Jesus Christ; His presence cannot be earned. "He'd been instructed in the way of the Lord, and being fervent in spirit, he spoke and taught accurately the things concerning Jesus, though he knew only the baptism of John." Don't You know that? And there was - I forget if it was a Greek or a Hebrew scholar, who was attending the meeting. You see, what this Spirit is - this Spirit is the missionary Spirit. But let's look at one of the clearest passages. General Epistles Luke-Acts And he recognized, Jesus Christ is not being glorified. That's what happened in the book of Acts. The gift of the Holy Spirit is received by believing in Jesus Christ. The New Testament Poetical Books So here's the thing, they believed, they received the Word of God, "they had been baptized." It's like one of the things that Jesus is teaching us is if you want to be specifically asking for something that I know is really important in your life - something as you ask and you keep going back - this importunity; I feel like He's teaching on importunity, and He says you want to go back to the Father again and again and again and again for something? The Old Testament He knows just the baptism of John. Paul passed through the inland country. 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